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【悲報】1世帯30万円給付、対象を月収8.4万円以下に限定してしまう

1: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:09.93 ID:m75HsKHQa
政府の原案によると、給付対象となるのは、世帯主の2月以降の月間収入が1月以前と比べ、

(1)減少し、年間ベースの収入が個人住民税(均等割)非課税の水準となる場合
(2)半分以下に減少し、個人住民税(同)非課税水準の2倍以下の場合。

単身者世帯では年収100万円以下が住民税非課税となるため、月収ベースでは(1)の要件が単純計算で約8.3万円となる。
https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2020040600345&g=pol&utm_source=top&utm_medium=topics&utm_campaign=edit
※前スレ
【悲報】1世帯30万円給付、対象を月収8.3万円以下に限定してしまう
https://swallow.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livejupiter/1586153686/

46: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:15.91 ID:rEMcV9g4M
>>1
昭恵「晋ちゃんよくやった!これで私のお友達の反社会勢力の方々を助けることができるわ♩」

2: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:18.66 ID:m75HsKHQa
たおおおああと

3: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:23.79 ID:m75HsKHQa
やべえよ

4: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:47.50 ID:m75HsKHQa
まずくない?

5: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:53.44 ID:Ar2TU+bbp
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6: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:56.02 ID:J+XxuOTva
日雇いのみの救済?

16: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:57.17 ID:VF0/NrzN0
>>6
昭恵の取り巻きの反社的な黒い奴らもだろうな

7: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:05:58.82 ID:k6NRb6IBa
これアカンやつや!

8: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:01.29 ID:X0w37QcN0
年収100万以下とか生きていかれへんやん

9: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:16.29 ID:VwML9V+66
とことんガイジ政権やな

10: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:16.32 ID:+N7evhdW0
スレ建て続ければ基準緩くなっていくのか!

11: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:21.73 ID:VF0/NrzN0
安倍信は布マスク2枚とこれで喜んでる模様

そういう対象の人達なのかな?

12: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:32.48 ID:Kld8P94K0
景気回復してたはずなのになんで1000万世帯も貰えるんや?

13: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:39.78 ID:NszfkIGD0
休日にしかバイト入らない一人暮らしの大学生しかもらえんやん

18: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:13.00 ID:VwML9V+66
>>13
普通の大学生は扶養入ってるから貰えんやろ

24: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:09.70 ID:NszfkIGD0
>>18
誰ももらえんやんけ!

32: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:52.94 ID:LGFXqR+L0
>>18
扶養のことは何も書いてないから貰えるンゴww

30: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:38.52 ID:WxZW8P5gM
>>13
世帯ごとだから無理やろ
学生は親の扶養控除枠内でバイトしてる奴がほとん

14: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:48.50 ID:2BzAzeGO0
よっぽと配りたくないんやろw

15: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:06:55.09 ID:thcdwa8wa
これは国民なめすぎ

17: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:08.66 ID:j/86n4nTa
言うて国民全員に30万配って経済良くなるかって話ですよ

21: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:29.41 ID:VwML9V+66
>>17
なるぞ

25: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:16.66 ID:mHX82/zOa
>>17
ならん!
ワイが欲しいってだけや

19: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:16.74 ID:ei6bEK/8d
安倍「1300万世帯に30万円配布します!」

30万円貰える家庭の対象
・コロナの影響で年間所得が住民税非課税水準まで落ち込んだ世帯
・コロナの影響で年間所得が半減し、住民税非課税水準の二倍以下になった世帯
・生活保護世帯は不可
・年金世帯は不可
・所得の書類を提出する事が必要
・嘘をついたら逮捕
・在日外国人も可

住民税非課税世帯の対象
単身世帯:年収100万円

夫婦(配偶者を扶養している場合):年収156万円

夫婦と子供1人(配偶者と子供を扶養している場合):年収205.7万円

夫婦と子供2人(配偶者と子供を扶養している場合):年収255.7万円

34: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:59.41 ID:ybhjKj3fa
>>19
こんなん元々生きてないやろ

53: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:48.76 ID:Y2w4cSLUd
>>19
現役世代ほぼ全員無理なの本当クソ
ガチで生きてる間2度と自民党には投票しねーわ

66: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:15.75 ID:VwML9V+66
>>19
ガイジガイジアンドガイジ

67: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:16.55 ID:6cZlCaLGd
>>19
こんなんどうやって計算したら1300万世帯になるねん
嘘をついてるとしか思えんのやが

68: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:28.61 ID:q5vfPQWp0
>>19
これ国民年金貰いつつ
細々と小遣い程度の自営業やってる人も対象なの?

年金+自営業収入の合計年収で計算されるの?

84: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:35.80 ID:YjevO4Nv0
>>19
子供二人おるけど255万も貰ってないわ
これはチャンスやろ

154: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:35.26 ID:5ZSy/G/rp
>>84
30万でウキウキする暇あったら働け

115: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:39.11 ID:LSfHINI5p
>>19
想定だと1000万世帯を想定してるって見たけどどうなんやろ 
ここまで本当に厳しいのかな?
それともこれに該当する人がいるってことなんかな

127: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:40.30 ID:WftqILs1M
>>19
個人事業主で嫁1人子供1人で元々収入が800万くらいあってそれがコロナショックで年収400万まで落ち込んだ人とかは対象になるやろ

142: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:41.63 ID:o+lbExYea
>>127
それは100万のやつ

180: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:50.64 ID:WftqILs1M
>>142
100万のやつとは?
30万の補助金のやつだぞ

144: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:45.01 ID:TWpEcDt50
>>19
このレベルやと一回30万貰うより生活保護申請した方がええんやないか?

20: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:28.16 ID:IyVvWNep0
ほんま国民に金使わんな

22: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:32.47 ID:SybzPhff0
ワイ貰えるやんww勝ち組wっw

23: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:07:54.26 ID:1I9EUC8B0
これ誰が対象になんの?

26: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:18.51 ID:KThITqhT0
給付金所対象者は住民税非課税世帯と収入減世帯や
住民税非課税世帯は課税で把握できている
収入減世帯はがんばって証明しろ

109: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:21.87 ID:3IKt3k8Ed
>>26
お前前スレでも嘘をついてたやろ
収入減の低所得世帯と書いてあるのに読解力なさすぎやろ

133: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:58.22 ID:DappMh3G0
>>26
元から非課税は
勝手に対象とテレビで発言したやつがいるだけでまともな新聞ソースにはその案ははいってない

149: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:03.66 ID:3IKt3k8Ed
>>133
時事にも朝日にも日経にも書いてあるんですがそれは

27: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:23.67 ID:D2TJnpVya
安倍ちゃんはパートは25万円貰ってると思ってるからな

28: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:27.34 ID:/Wwv3qSI0
30万×1000万=3兆
3兆÷1億2千万=2万5千
リーマン時の倍やぞ!

29: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:36.60 ID:GF7VGrvxM
ワイも貰えるで

31: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:46.36 ID:i5Gg0cvkM
収入下がったと証明する書類ってなんや?

38: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:40.82 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>31
給与所得者なら給与明細
自営業は帳簿かなぁ?

33: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:08:53.46 ID:OySctFZV0
なんでニートのワイちゃんは貰えないんですか?

49: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:32.38 ID:feKy7amdd
>>33
ニートのワイちゃんにはコロナの影響がないからです

35: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:15.76 ID:ItGMdNVO0
これってヨッメの月収が半分以下になってもワイが満額のままやと対象にはならへんってことでいいんか?

42: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:04.95 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>35
そらそうやろ

36: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:20.31 ID:BnbNBSDDM
元から収入0のワイが貰えるのか貰えないのかはっきりしろ

62: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:04.31 ID:KThITqhT0
>>36
貰える

88: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:44.77 ID:BnbNBSDDM
>>62
よっしゃ👊😤

72: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:46.90 ID:DappMh3G0
>>36
グレーゾーン

79: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:16.36 ID:63u8pR3Pd
>>36
収入が変わらんのに貰える訳ないやろ

37: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:29.88 ID:yerUOOmFp
これ貰える条件の奴にもっと配ってやれよ30万じゃ足りんやろ

39: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:44.84 ID:jGLPlqeZa
コロナ関係ないけど、3月に辞めたワイは貰えるんか?
二十代の自主退職やから、3ヶ月に3ヶ月間の失業保険のみやが

48: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:28.51 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>39
無理くさい

52: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:46.85 ID:DappMh3G0
>>39
マジレスすると誰にも分からん

40: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:49.92 ID:/C2zVvzs0
つーかこれに当てはまる奴が日本に18%もいることが驚きなんだが
やべー国じゃん

61: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:57.95 ID:rEMcV9g4M
>>40
真面目に勉強して真面目に就活して真面目に週5仕事する日本人が一番損する美しい国日本

41: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:09:59.17 ID:1I9EUC8B0
対象者は一体どうやって生きてんだよ

43: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:07.46 ID:JyMW3X0Oa
さっきからかたくなに非課税世帯でももらえる言い張る人おるなあ

44: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:09.03 ID:6eLPhQh+p
ヤクザがホームレスに戸籍作らせて資金源にしたりしそう

56: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:37.90 ID:WxZW8P5gM
>>44
ヤクザかどうか分からんがやる奴らはいるやろな
世帯ごとだからとにかく人集めればいける

80: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:17.52 ID:3qaXQlHR0
>>44
まだ確定申告できるからなぁ
ホンマに多発するやろな

90: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:03.60 ID:DappMh3G0
>>44
むしろなんJ全員でそれをやるべき

45: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:15.21 ID:yTFoX0Y90
まじでこの月収年収の人は有事に限らず助けたれよ…

47: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:27.73 ID:5fCulPju0
どうやって生活しとるん?

50: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:34.58 ID:KThITqhT0
大学生は扶養控除使ってるかどうか親に確認しろ
たいていの奴は扶養されてるから対象外だ

51: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:10:45.53 ID:b4tHRQUXx
元から非課税世帯はなんで政府は言及せんのや?
無理なら無理ってコメントするやろ?

58: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:39.74 ID:DappMh3G0
>>51
テレビで勝手に対象と発言した人はいるけど
公式的な検討案には今は含まれてない

101: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:40.86 ID:b4tHRQUXx
>>58
そもそもなんで政府は言及せんのや

70: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:33.64 ID:JyMW3X0Oa
>>51
あくまで基準が非課税世帯水準ってだけでしょ

54: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:11.78 ID:0BvNKRNR0
現金給付
「まずは住民税非課税世帯に」
片山さつき議員
https://mobile.twitter.com/cooo55/status/1246803688619835393

これ昨日のやつな
https://twitter.com/5chan_nel (5ch newer account)

131: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:49.90 ID:0BvNKRNR0
>>104
>>54見てみ
非課税世帯が約1000万世帯おって
残りの300世帯に落ち込んだ世帯分含めればぴったりや

136: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:12.28 ID:KThITqhT0
>>54を見たら分かるよ
住民税非課税世帯が原則形態だ
次に収入減を証明できた人も給付対象

138: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:28.04 ID:0BvNKRNR0
>>106
>>54

171: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:25.91 ID:3qaXQlHR0
>>54
内定取り消しがこの制度でどうやって大正になるんや?
ただの片山さつきの意見なだけやろ

55: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:31.48 ID:RVmDiIyr0
学校帰りの学生アルバイトみてーなやつにしか配らん言うことか

57: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:38.22 ID:zr5hjUUUp
自営は税務署に月8万ですって申告すると所得税払わんでいいから無理矢理低く収入の申告してるんやで
実際にはみんな月40~50万は稼いでる
それはどんな本にも書いてる節税の基本や
それが1000万世帯ってことやろ

69: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:30.64 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>57
正確にはこれは経費なんや!の連続やけどな

89: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:58.46 ID:JyMW3X0Oa
>>69
そんなことしなくても税務署まで大勢でパレードして大勢で書類置いてきて終わりだぞ

132: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:55.91 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>89
ワイ、家のテレビが経費なるかで揉めたんや

74: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:49.47 ID:qKKs4pFU0
>>57
自営には100万配るからこれは自営対策じゃないぞ

77: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:05.04 ID:mHX82/zOa
>>57
自営ってそんなに多いやろか

87: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:44.37 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>77
そら多いやろ

94: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:19.33 ID:WxZW8P5gM
>>77
というか自営ならそれぐらい稼いでないとまともな経営状態にもっていけない

108: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:19.85 ID:wgVdnke+a
>>94
そうなんや
思ったより大変なんやな

147: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:52.30 ID:KThITqhT0
>>77
ネットで稼ぎまくりやん今の時代

59: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:48.19 ID:He60arVA0
https://i.imgur.com/Tzbib7h.jpg

海外との比較訂正版やな

60: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:11:54.40 ID:m+Oqp1zmr
あれ、戦後最大の好景気はどこ行った?

63: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:06.78 ID:DiRDSnF/d
そんな家あるわけねーだろバカ!

64: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:06.89 ID:xIPRUc6/r
これに該当する人が30万もらったところでどうにかなるのかねぇ

65: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:10.27 ID:oNkqlrQQ0
何が驚くってこれに該当するのが2割も居る想定でこれだけのんびりふざけた議論を重ねる感覚
実際にいるかどうかは知らんがその想定でこれなんだからな

86: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:44.21 ID:rEMcV9g4M
>>65
これ議論してる方々は365日寝てても年収3500万円以上貰えるし交通費会食費その他国民の税金で無料だから麻痺しちゃうねしゃーない

121: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:05.85 ID:yerUOOmFp
>>86
まあ自分のおかげでパートが月収25万貰えてると思ってるガイジがトップやし

71: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:40.61 ID:89T1ALKv0
これニート大勝利と解釈してええんか?

73: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:48.15 ID:5oT8RQtla
ワイのナマポも額は大差ないからワイにも支給して😭

75: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:12:53.39 ID:NszfkIGD0
支持率一桁不可避

76: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:02.68 ID:uVKOdTQ30
おかしくねぇか?
アルバイトのワイの月給より下やんけ

78: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:14.26 ID:oNkqlrQQ0
ガワだけ先進国のド貧乏国家ですやん

81: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:20.79 ID:p2pTKuC2M
世帯主に限定してるのがクソ
これじゃニートが貰えないじゃん

82: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:24.14 ID:xRphs5c5d
この収入で生きてる人おるんか?
生活保護の方が貰ってるんやないの

129: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:43.81 ID:5oT8RQtla
>>82
都会は分からんけどワイはこれくらいしかナマポ貰ってないわ😡

83: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:29.09 ID:fntlzrica
ボーナス貰えないやつは結構増えると思うんだけど(2)の非課税世帯の倍でかつ収入が減ったに該当するやつはもしかしたらいるのかもな
夫婦2人の子供2人で元々の収入が450万、ボーナス全カットで400万を切れば貰えるって事やろ?
もしくは嫁が休校の影響で働けなくなってとかでも該当は可能かもしれん

112: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:27.50 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>83
扶養控除含めた場合の計算出てないからなんとも言えない

126: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:31.22 ID:VwML9V+66
>>83
夫婦と子供2人の世帯で450万ってどういう生活しとるんや
単身でも450万ってそんな余裕ある年収ちゃうのに

85: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:13:41.09 ID:qKKs4pFU0
金ださん安倍とか無価値だろ

91: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:06.47 ID:0yD653JSd
対象者1万世帯くらいでも30万も配りましたよー!!!!安倍すげー!!!って言い続けるんやろな

98: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:35.58 ID:bdCcWYlua
>>91
そりゃ自分が対象になれば万歳三唱よ

92: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:07.92 ID:XDboeMWT0
最低賃金で働いてないと無理やろこんなん

93: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:13.35 ID:jIokQJLmK
これ公明党が学会員向けに出した政策感半端ないわ

95: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:22.31 ID:awAOapQ6M
絶対に金を渡したくないという強い意思を感じる

96: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:30.69 ID:IyVvWNep0
次はなんJで勧めされた国民民主党に入れるわ

97: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:33.27 ID:lKMxFCGB0
フリーターですら無理やん

99: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:36.67 ID:+YbbLTg4M
ワイ対象者やんけ😭

100: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:37.60 ID:nWph+64la
【朗報】コロナ、ニートが一発逆転できる神ウイルスだった

102: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:43.61 ID:X0w37QcN0
配るにしてもどこから出すの?年金?

103: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:50.35 ID:5oT8RQtla
ナマポに配らんとか差別やろ😡
金ないのはワイも一緒やぞ

104: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:14:52.28 ID:FoWiV1dO0
そんな奴が1300万世帯もおるんか!?
どうなってんだこの国は

174: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:42.99 ID:GF7VGrvxM
>>104
美しい国日本の闇
格差社会やで

105: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:05.87 ID:A3s/6v+50
パートのおばちゃんすら無理やろ

106: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:12.07 ID:WOAwJEXsM
今すでに非課税世帯は結局どっちなんや
話がコロコロ変わりすぎやで

107: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:14.25 ID:DappMh3G0
ニートになんか出ないぞ
誰かに食わしてもらってるんだろ

110: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:22.53 ID:FMn9iRkV0
こんなもん一律30万で全員に寄付して後から所得に応じて確定申告の税率で調整したらええ話やろ
最初から全部設計してから始めようとするから時間も掛かるししょうもない制度になる
アピール的にも効果的にも満点取るよりスピード感が命な話なのに、日本はこういうのほんま下手くそやな

111: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:26.49 ID:hvno+yK10
お前らの声が小さいとこのままやぞ

113: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:28.18 ID:i5Gg0cvkM
前にプレミアム商品券貰った貧乏人に支給するんやないの?ちゃうの?

114: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:32.37 ID:lKMxFCGB0
一体誰に向けた給付なんや

116: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:51.94 ID:xRphs5c5d
単身で月8万て家賃1万とかで暮らしてる芸人でもバイトしてたら超えるやろ

117: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:53.93 ID:3qaXQlHR0
最初困窮者対策で反社会的勢力に行き渡るのを防ぐために風俗関係は渡しませんいうスタンスやったけどここまで厳しいと逆に反社会的勢力ががっつり食い込んでくるやろうな

118: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:56.39 ID:LsUNd4p4p
嘘をつくな嘘を

え?マジなん?

119: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:15:56.55 ID:IvzjVxaS0
うつ病で休職中のおじさんは貰えるのかな?ちな労働組合から月18万円貰っている

143: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:43.58 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>119
むりやね

120: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:00.80 ID:z2pqyyO7M
消費税減税みたいなのは意地でもやらんのやな
財務省とバーター取引してるのはマジなんかな

122: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:14.30 ID:VlS0GO0xM
30万もらおうが餓死ルートやろこれ

123: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:15.27 ID:Nw44zJQ60
どういうこと?
詳しくないけどバイトじゃなかったら最低賃金貰えるから8万いくらってことありえんやろ
歩合でも
バイトにあげるってこと?

124: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:21.10 ID:NszfkIGD0
地域振興券配ってどうぞ

125: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:30.11 ID:f2Gl3Y1va
携帯電話会社みたいな手法やめろ

128: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:42.84 ID:BnbNBSDDM
ニート大勝利✌?🥴✌?

145: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:45.47 ID:A3s/6v+50
>>128
収入減ったの?

155: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:37.11 ID:89T1ALKv0
>>145
普通ママからのお小遣い減ってるよね

168: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:22.75 ID:BnbNBSDDM
>>145
先月マッマからのお小遣い0円やったんや🥺

156: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:51.47 ID:vUiIPR6Wa
>>128
扶養入らないでニートとか凄すぎへん?

130: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:16:46.39 ID:jbdeq5bT0
むしろ元々非課税民がメインターゲットだから
それが1000万世帯
収入減った人が200~300万世帯と見てるんだろ

134: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:09.81 ID:bQZr91O90
これに1000万人が対象になる予定て日本やばない?

135: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:10.53 ID:jHo2TO3Pd
選挙はよ

137: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:18.09 ID:f2Gl3Y1va
こんなご時世でも家賃はキッチリ取られてく
地主最強だな

150: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:10.31 ID:FrUIL8Gu0
>>137
消費税で所得考慮せず一律で取ってる国だぞ

164: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:08.59 ID:WftqILs1M
>>137
家主にはなんの罪もないからな
むしろ零細専業家主でメインテナントが退去してしまって家賃収入減少した人はこの補助金の対象になるかもな

190: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:13.96 ID:3qaXQlHR0
>>137
滞納メッチャ増えてるぞ
あと当然もう少ししたら潰れる店増えてそもそも空き店舗増えるし

139: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:34.44 ID:LsUNd4p4p
もう散体しろよ

140: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:39.34 ID:DappMh3G0
片山さつきが全権限握ってるわけじゃない

186: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:07.54 ID:0BvNKRNR0
>>140
あのなあ
そもそも収入が落ち込んだ世帯で1300万もおるわけないし、どっからその数字持ってきたんや?

141: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:40.51 ID:I0tnqdiA0
実在するとしてこんなやつ全世帯の0.01%もおらんやろ

146: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:51.35 ID:pRdg+r/D0
無理やん😨もうワイは生きるな言うことか😇

163: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:07.18 ID:5oT8RQtla
>>146
ワイも国から生きることを否定されてる気分だわ😢

148: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:17:53.11 ID:kI0RHlHK0
日経の記事だと、対象は非課税世帯と収入減の課税世帯
但し、課税世帯は以下の条件に該当する場合
みたいな書き方だし非課税世帯は無条件で給付だろうな
まあ、そうでないと連日1300万世帯なんて連呼せんわな
非課税世帯は申告で把握してるから通知送って口座番号書いて返送して振り込みで済むし

151: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:14.34 ID:BnbNBSDDM
30万貰ったら何買おうかな

158: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:56.53 ID:Fa8iWgbor
>>151
完全に扶養から外れとるんか?

152: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:22.11 ID:EkSNeKJ2p
金ありまくりでバイトは趣味レベルのやつしか対象にならんやろこんなの

153: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:30.54 ID:MaNkzgIed
課税証明で非課税なら問答無用なんか?

157: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:55.40 ID:gokg7Rs5a
これってタクシー運転手も当てはまる?

167: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:16.76 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>157
もちろん

181: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:53.30 ID:gokg7Rs5a
>>167
マジかならやるだけ無駄やな……ありがとう

159: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:18:58.96 ID:L0ubrOh6a
マスクもゴミw

高額納税者のワイらはなんなんやろな

197: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:40.59 ID:rEMcV9g4M
>>159
上級様の駒やで

160: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:04.20 ID:3sdx8T1kd
ギリギリ課税されてるんだが泣いていいか?

188: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:10.87 ID:KThITqhT0
>>160
去年の年収やろ
今年の年収で決まるかもしれんから一応まだ分からん

161: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:05.06 ID:stKdQD3c0
消費税減税しろよマジで

162: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:06.27 ID:o+lbExYea
こいつらなんだったらできんだよ?

165: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:09.93 ID:YfMVurFw0
ようわからんけど
観光地とかの人か

166: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:14.09 ID:s+SziLqFa
ニートってこの話に関係ない?
ないなら寝るんやけど

172: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:37.44 ID:dqJBLsgI0
>>166
ないよ

185: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:06.79 ID:s+SziLqFa
>>172
サンガツ寝るわ
安部死ね

173: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:38.90 ID:UQCqTsgU0
>>166
世帯分離してるニートには関係ある

196: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:35.77 ID:O3uUpVG0a
>>173
収入減で落ちないといけないから関係ないぞ

182: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:53.46 ID:DcjRYJLnr
>>166
扶養外れとるニートなら対象者の可能性がワンチャン

169: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:23.43 ID:FrUIL8Gu0
恐ろしいのが非課税世帯じゃなくて収入が落ちて非課税世帯になっただからなあ
実質失業手当であって社会保障政策で見てもさらに対象を絞ってる
実際1000万世帯もないだろ

189: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:12.31 ID:+N7evhdW0
>>169
自営業がほぼ全員対象やから

191: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:20.03 ID:JyMW3X0Oa
>>169
月単位でならわかるけどたかだか2ヶ月で非課税世帯に転落って不可能だよね

170: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:24.25 ID:CQo0kclDM
給付は経済対策で救済じゃない言うてたやん
自民党ってほんとにアホしかおらんな
頼むから日本の為に政権から退いてくれ

187: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:10.25 ID:IhBso+J3a
>>170
経済対策ならなおさら国がばらまく必要ないわ

175: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:44.55 ID:20bghygBa
まーた松本人志が安倍ちゃんに芸人を優遇するように頼んだんかほんまカスやな

176: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:45.85 ID:D++HSpM1a
こういうみんなで痛みを分かち合うようなタイミングで一部の層だけ30万貰えるとかなったら、貰えなかった大半から反感持たれるよな
選挙目当ての人気取りと言われようとも現金支給するならせめて過半数以上を対象にするべきやったと思うけどね

177: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:46.80 ID:gRr5IK3+0
残り29万9870円…

178: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:47.27 ID:bio3AFt6a
正社員どころか派遣ですらいないだろ
そこまでして国民に金渡したくないのか…

179: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:49.05 ID:/jGQ++7dd
扶養は当然入れて非課税かどうかだよね?

183: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:19:55.30 ID:KOCZSjAU0
やっぱアベコロが必要やったね…

184: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:02.64 ID:iieCcmLs0
ガガイのガイ

192: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:22.04 ID:f2Gl3Y1va
自粛すればするほど国民が死んでいく

193: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:31.11 ID:O8Wyglz8p
岸影並のガイジで草

194: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:33.92 ID:ZdOMaloy0
確か日本全体の世帯が5800万でそのうち非課税世帯が1100万くらいらしい
で、今回の現金給付対象世帯がおよそ1000万世帯を対象にするとか言ってたから、非課税世帯は大体もらえるんちゃうか
去年、プレミアム商品券使えた貧乏人は期待してええぞ

195: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:33.93 ID:hKRDfH1G0
もともと瀕死やんけ

198: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:47.13 ID:1jky7qxZ0
なんやこれ草生えない

199: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:49.81 ID:5oT8RQtla
ワイみたいなはみ出し者でも安心して暮らせる国を作りたい

200: 風吹けば名無し 2020/04/06(月) 16:20:49.90 ID:RVmDiIyr0
時給800円の1日4時間とかでギリ貰えるレベルとかそんなやつおらんやろ

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